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Replies: 24 — Last Post Oct. 10 4:47pm by Major
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Quote: from solitude at 4:12 pm on Oct. 9, 2008
God exists if you believe in him  

/thread

If you believe you have a tail, that doesn't mean it's there when you look back.

Post edited at 5:23 pm on Oct. 9, 2008 by Pixel Dust

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Quote: from Pixel Dust at 1:54 am on Oct. 10, 2008
Quote: from solitude at 4:12 pm on Oct. 9, 2008
God exists if you believe in him  

 /thread

If you believe you have a tail, that doesn't mean it's their when you look back.

that's exactly what it means.

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I think this is the most disappointing argument I've seen from you Sean. Even i wouldn't have trouble rebutting this.

Appealing to the authority of previous , less educated generations is a shitty attempt to argue the existence of God.

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Guys. Its not trying to prove the existance of God.

what part of the OP did you not understand?

the point is..when you attack christianity, calling it poorly thought out is stupid, because people have "thought it out" for 2000 years. It is very well thought out. That doesnt mean its true, just that you cannot accuse it of being uninformed.

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Oh, my bad.

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Quote: from Ice Hand at 7:48 pm on Oct. 9, 2008
Oh, my bad.

Its ok.   we are just so glad you are back with us.

any thoughts now that you know what it is saying?

ps, this topic came up in an abortion/prolife thread, and so sean moved it out of context to another topic.

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Quote: from barnabas at 9:56 am on Oct. 10, 2008
Its ok. we are just so glad you are back with us.

It's good to be back. I've had little mental stimulation during my absence and I've kinda lost my edge.  

any thoughts now that you know what it is saying?

Yeah, I agree. Attempting to argue that Christinity is poorly thought out would be stupid.

ps, this topic came up in an abortion/prolife thread, and so sean moved it out of context to another topic.

I was wondering about that.

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Quote: from Ice Hand at 8:14 pm on Oct. 9, 2008
Yeah, I agree. Attempting to argue that Christinity is poorly thought out would be stupid.  

That's what happened.  I used the term "unfounded belief" and someone asked me to define it.  I said an "unfounded belief is a belief which has not been thoroughly thought out."  Someone then said that by the existence of God had not been thought out.

You weren't the only one to not get it.  I was hoping this would be enough context, but apparently it wasn't:

So I'll move the discussion of the existence of God being a well thought out concept over here.


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Quote: from Major at 5:57 pm on Oct. 9, 2008
the thinkers before even the most recent scientific revolutions who had to struggle with the concept of god and instead place an "almighty spirit" where he is--because to them the idea of a caring, omnipotent, omnipresent being is unbelievable-- are the agnostics and the atheists of today

You talk as though every sound mind has no concluded that there is no God or that God is unknowable.  Some of the most astounding high theology and apologetics have gone on since the scientific revolutions.  The man who the Catholic Church has declared the most important theologian since Aquinas, Karl Barth (a Protestant), lived within our parents lifetime.  The practice of high theology goes steadly on in spite of your scientific revolutions, which is in part the point of this topic.

there are more people, there will be more christians and more muslims and most of them are not converts but the children of believers.

*awaits statistical source for statistical claim*

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that is pretty much common sense, i'm not going to humor you

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