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US census is "Racist"
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For acknowledging that some people still refer to themselves as "Negro"
http://www.4029tv.com/news/22466400/detail.html


[...]
But it's question No. 9 that's getting a lot of attention. It asks about race, and one option is "Black, African American or Negro."

"Why not leave it as African American? I think that would be more appropriate," said University of Arkansas at Fort Smith sociology professor Lonnie Watts.
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No, retard, it would not be more appropriate because the vast majority of American Negroes were not born in Africa or ever been to Africa.
Not only that, there are numerous Africans that would fit under the "Caucasian" category.
The vast majority of Africans from Morocco to Somalia are not Black, thus "African" and "Black" are very different things, not to mention the Khoisan/Capoids of South Africa such as Nelson Mandela are also non-Black.


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"Can a word or the use of a word be racist? Yes, it can," Watts said. "Words can hurt. Words can cut deeper than the sharpest knife."

The U.S. Census Bureau said the word "negro" has been on the questionnaire since 1950. They said it's not intended to offend anyone, but to be inclusive.

In 2000 they said more than 50,000 people -- a majority from the South -- wrote in word "negro" under "other race" despite it being listed on the form.
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A word cannot be "Racist" because a word is an abstract thing that cannot hold an opinion, and "racism" is just a personal belief.
"Negro" is not "racist" - no matter who says it.

Obviously it's not intended to offend anyone but people can still get butthurt over a simple word that tens of thousands refer to themselves as.

It's funny how they want to get rid of "Negro" while "Black" was considered a derogatory term in the in the 19th and early 20th century.

The race hustlers can't find any real grievances and have to make up absurd complaints to stay in business.

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stupid spaniards

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 10:06 pm on Feb. 8, 2010

stupid spaniards
Retard doesn't understand that we didn't obtain the term "Negro" from Spanish speakers and that it's an actual English word, just conveniently meaning "Black" in Spanish.

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They dumb.

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Okay, here's how I view it.
I don't consider myself to be "African-American". My family was originally from Jamaica. My family was not brought to America during the time of slavery.

I don't consider myself to be "black". To me, the word black is just a color. If I were to be judged by a color, "brown" would have been a better choice of word.

And I don't consider myself to be a "negro". To me, the word negro only derives from the word nigger. (Or vice-versa). So I would be offended if someone called me a "negro". Not to mention that it is a very dated term for people of color.

So the US Census can kiss my ass.

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Who needs a dictionary when they can make up their own definitions?

Also, since when were you what you considered yourself?

Obviously CherryxBomb isn't "African-American" since her family is Jamaican and Jamaica is not Africa. But claiming you're not a Negro because you don't like the word is nonsense.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:18 pm on Feb. 8, 2010

Who needs a dictionary when they can make up their own definitions?

Also, since when were you what you considered yourself?

Obviously CherryxBomb isn't "African-American" since her family is Jamaican and Jamaica is not Africa. But claiming you're not a Negro because you don't like the word is nonsense.


But claiming I am a negro just because you only believe that I am is also nonsense. And who are we to decide what the proper titles for each ethnicity are?

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A bit hypocritical calling people retards, no?

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Quote: from CherryxBomb at 10:35 pm on Feb. 8, 2010

But claiming I am a negro just because you only believe that I am is also nonsense.
I didn't claim you were anything, read my post.



And who are we to decide what the proper titles for each ethnicity are?
Exactly, the random person should not create the titles - if anything, anthropologists should.
And they have.

"Black, African-American, or Negro" would instead be Negroid.
"White or Caucasian" would be Caucasoid.
"Asian or Pacific Islander" would be Mongoloid.
Etc.

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Quote: from fezzy at 10:45 pm on Feb. 8, 2010

A bit hypocritical calling people retards, no?
Not really.

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Still waiting for the census to call whites "blancos" since they seem to love the Spanish language so much.

And still waiting for those lovers of Spanish to admit the US Census is Hispanic lol

Post edited at 8:09 pm on Feb. 8, 2010 by jakelong

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Still waiting for some people to realize that the term "Negro" isn't really derived from Spanish and that it is an English word originally with the same meaning as "Negroid"

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Origin:  
1545-55; < Sp and Pg negro black < L nigrum, masc. acc. of niger black


[Spanish and Portuguese negro, black, Black person, from Latin niger, nigr-, black; see nekw-t- in Indo-European roots.]
Ne'gro adj.

For the clueless Sp and Pg means Spanish and Portugese


Negro

"member of a black-skinned race of Africa," 1555, from Sp. or Port. negro "black," from L. nigrum (nom. niger) "black," of unknown origin. Use with a capital N- became general early 20c. (e.g. 1930 in "New York Times" stylebook) in ref. to U.S. citizens of African descent, but because of its perceived association with white-imposed attitudes and roles the word was ousted late 1960s in this sense by Black (q.v.).


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/negro

Note that NOWHERE does it say it originates from "negroid"....But hey keep the lies-acoming

Post edited at 8:43 pm on Feb. 8, 2010 by jakelong

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For the clueless Sp and Pg means Spanish and Portugese
The term originated in English from the Portuguese, not the Spaniards - although they have a similar language.


Note that NOWHERE does it say it originates from "negroid"....But hey keep the lies-acoming
Nowhere did I say that Negro originated from Negroid.
It's the other way around actually.

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1. Show me that the English version is derived from Portugese and NOT Spanish.

2. Guess that means all those hypcroites whining that we are speaking too many foreign languages and not enough english are getting bitten in their ass.

3. NOWHERE can I find that it has the SAME MEANING as negroid

Negro means black period. From 18th century to 1960 it was considred a term to refer from sub sahara Africa. But nowhere does it say it has the SAME MEANING as negroid

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