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Do you hate Bush and why?
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Replies: 1133Last Post Nov. 4 5:39pm by ininjateddybear
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Choice Votes Percent  
Yes, Bush is teh sux! 571 27%
Yes, I have reasons for hating Bush 811 38%
Eh whatever he sucks, but not worse than most others 200 9%
Hey at least it wasn't Kerry or Gore 251 11%
No, how can you hate Bush he is 1337 270 12%
Vote Now! 2103 Votes Cast
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Quote: from IamNotBritish at 4:39 pm on July 11, 2005

Quote: from ZenaGirl at 4:35 pm on July 11, 2005

And what makes you a better judge of propaganda than I am?  

 Care to list your qualifications for this expertism?


I know what propaganda is and you don't?
Just a guess, no need to get testy.


When people make claims they should have proof to back it up.

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Moore makes the presentation that Powell gave the UN on WMD look like straight news.

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Quote: from ZenaGirl at 4:48 pm on July 11, 2005

When people make claims they should have proof to back it up.


Proof that Michael Moore spins facts?

[url]http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf[/url]

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This looks like propaganda itself  IamNotBritish.
Most of the stuff they harp about is trivial matters of no consequence at all- like "Like all the other networks, had won in Florida. The first network mistake was CBS, not Fox."  Well so what?   How about the big issues- like why Bush sent the country to war on false pretenses- that's what matters!

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You mean like the wars in Yugoslavia or the Iraqi Liberation Act?  Where was the media then?  Where were all those stupid hippies and their protests then?  Oh that is right, only when Bush comes up with bs is it right to spam all forms of media and block the streets.

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ZenaGirl, remember the scene where Bush was at a very classy dinner event and he said, "Some people call you aristocrats, I call you my base" or something like that?  Moore, with that scene was implying that Bush is in the pocket of rich people.  It was actually a charity event where politicians, by tradition, make fun of themselves.

You can't say Moore didn't spin that one.

Entertaining? Sure.  Documentary? No.

The guy who lost limbs and was being interviewed at Walter Reed military hospital?  Never gave permission to be used in the film, and disagrees with Moore.

The border patrol agent or officer from some law enforcement agency who was saying that with recent budget cuts there is a lack of security?  He never gave his permission either, and says it was taken out of context.

I don't remember it all.  If you want a balanced look at the issue, rent the movie FahrenHYPE 9/11.

Now, OBVIOUSLY any movie or website we show you to dispute Moore's movie is going to be biased itself.  But fahrenHYPE actually shows the exact scenes from Moore's film, then shows you the part he left out.  It's hard to argue when the people that were IN Moore's film are saying that he's wrong, and you actually see the stuff he left out.

But you probably don't care about seeing that stuff, since you can spot propaganda from a mile away yourself, right?

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Penguincube, I don't doubt that Fahrenheit 911 contains inaccuracies, but Bush supporters are focusing on mostly trivial inaccuracies while ignoring the important damning things that are true.

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When I was forced to watch that steaming load there wasn't anything on there that I didn't already know, except for how much of a cunt moore was.

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I voted he sucks, but not much worse than others,
Basically because it's the truth.

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Hey, at least he's not as bad as Nixon.

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Quote: from ZenaGirl at 3:18 pm on July 11, 2005

Conservatives may not like Moore's editorial practices, but nearly all the information presented in the film is factually true, included plenty of damning clips of Bush himself.   Truth sometimes hurts.

Quote: from ZenaGirl at 6:13 pm on July 11, 2005


Penguincube, I don't doubt that Fahrenheit 911 contains inaccuracies, but Bush supporters are focusing on mostly trivial inaccuracies while ignoring the important damning things that are true.

Quote: from ZenaGirl at 3:35 pm on July 11, 2005


And what makes you a better judge of propaganda than I am?  

Care to list your qualifications for this expertism?


Ode to Hilarity.  

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Jacques Chirac, isn't it? If you can't spell his fucking name, then don't write about him.

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i hate what hes doing to fuck up this country

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