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Nudity in art. for images and avatars. Also clarification on swimwear.
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But it is externally linked, which is against the forums current guidelines.

If I am understanding them correctly.

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Quote: from CaliKevin at 9:11 am on Aug. 23, 2008

But it is externally linked, which is against the forums current guidelines.

If I am understanding them correctly.


It's not allowed on LW unless it's linked. We're not allowing nudity on the servers. Period. But nude art is OK if it's linked and on topic.

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Quote: from Nikki at 1:53 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Quote: from CaliKevin at 9:11 am on Aug. 23, 2008

But it is externally linked, which is against the forums current guidelines.  

 If I am understanding them correctly.


It's not allowed on LW unless it's linked. We're not allowing nudity on the servers. Period. But nude art is OK if it's linked and on topic.

Oh okay.  Thank you for clearing that up.

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Quote: from CaliKevin at 10:28 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Oh okay. Thank you for clearing that up.

Which means if you use image tags, and edit post, it will be rejected at the external image queue.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:36 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

brookie chookie23, since when has Livewire been a complete democracy?
Did I say that? Oh wait -

Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:45 pm on Aug. 22, 2008


and since LiveWire is based on democratic principles,
No, I didn't.


Almost every moderation decision is made without user input, and this is no different.

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I didn't say my suggestion shouldn't or couldn't be applied to proposed significant changes in future.

And by significant, I mean changes that affect most or all LiveWire members, i.e. not everyday tasks like removing a post.

Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008


Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects
mods are members too.

Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect.

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Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:35 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects
mods are members too.

Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect.

lol let's have a vote. anything less than 87,000 members agreeing with it and it's not a good policy.

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Quote: from hithere at 1:09 am on Aug. 24, 2008

Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:35 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects
mods are members too.

Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect.

lol let's have a vote. anything less than 87,000 members agreeing with it and it's not a good policy.

If you knew anything about science or research, you'd know that for a sample to be representative of its population, it must be selected randomly and the sample size must be at least the square root of the population.

So, for this particular issue,
Population = 172913 total members
(and that is exaggerated because at least half of those members are no longer active and therefore wouldn't be affected by the new rules)
Therefore, sample size = √172913 ≈ 416 members

Of course, I don't expect such a rigorous consultation process. I'm just pointing out how much of an exaggeration 87, 000 is. I don't even want a vote, because that would produce quantitative data, which wouldn't be helpful in telling moderators/admins why members think the decision should/shouldn't be made, or how it could be improved. I just would have liked an opportunity for members to present their opinions and suggestions on the proposed decision.

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Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 9:47 pm on Aug. 23, 2008

Of course, I don't expect such a rigorous consultation process. I'm just pointing out how much of an exaggeration 87, 000 is. I don't even want a vote, because that would produce quantitative data, which wouldn't be helpful in telling moderators/admins why members think the decision should/shouldn't be made, or how it could be improved. I just would have liked an opportunity for members to present their opinions and suggestions on the proposed decision.
There were some topics discussing that subject when the 'three musketeers' decided to take matters into their own hands. This announcement is the result of that rebellion. I'm not even sure that a majority of the Mods agree with this result.

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protest protest protest

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 10:27 am on Aug. 24, 2008

 

protest protest protest


That should be approved anyway. There's no genitalia or anything showing.

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Quote: from katyduck at 10:29 am on Aug. 24, 2008

That should be approved anyway. There's no genitalia or anything showing.

"To allow nudity (as a link from an external site) if it is present in a reasonable form in art in the midst of a legitimate discussion of art. (No Photographs) "

We didn't do the "no genitalia thing" we did blanket nudity.

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Post edited at 2:31 am on Aug. 24, 2008 by UnusualOne

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:35 pm on Aug. 24, 2008

Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 9:47 pm on Aug. 23, 2008

Of course, I don't expect such a rigorous consultation process. I'm just pointing out how much of an exaggeration 87, 000 is. I don't even want a vote, because that would produce quantitative data, which wouldn't be helpful in telling moderators/admins why members think the decision should/shouldn't be made, or how it could be improved. I just would have liked an opportunity for members to present their opinions and suggestions on the proposed decision.
There were some topics discussing that subject when the 'three musketeers' decided to take matters into their own hands. This announcement is the result of that rebellion. I'm not even sure that a majority of the Mods agree with this result.

Pity I live in Australia and was probably fast asleep when that happened then...

If the mods did something wrong, they should be disciplined, not us.

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Quote: from UnusualOne at 2:31 am on Aug. 24, 2008

Quote: from katyduck at 10:29 am on Aug. 24, 2008

That should be approved anyway. There's no genitalia or anything showing.

"To allow nudity (as a link from an external site) if it is present in a reasonable form in art in the midst of a legitimate discussion of art. (No Photographs) "

We didn't do the "no genitalia thing" we did blanket nudity.

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yeah and I'm protesting you bitchest

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 10:32 am on Aug. 24, 2008

yeah and I'm protesting you bitchest

Go ahead. I don't agree with the policy.

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