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Nudity in art. for images and avatars. Also clarification on swimwear.  |
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Replies: 146 Last Post Oct. 23, 2008 11:30am by Riot
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brookie chookie23
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Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:36 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
brookie chookie23, since when has Livewire been a complete democracy? 
Did I say that? Oh wait - Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:45 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
and since LiveWire is based on democratic principles, 
No, I didn't.
Almost every moderation decision is made without user input, and this is no different. FP 
I didn't say my suggestion shouldn't or couldn't be applied to proposed significant changes in future. And by significant, I mean changes that affect most or all LiveWire members, i.e. not everyday tasks like removing a post. Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects 
mods are members too. 
Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect.
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Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:35 am on Aug. 23, 2008
Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects 
mods are members too. 
Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect. 
lol let's have a vote. anything less than 87,000 members agreeing with it and it's not a good policy.
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brookie chookie23
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Quote: from hithere at 1:09 am on Aug. 24, 2008
Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 3:35 am on Aug. 23, 2008
Quote: from hithere at 11:38 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
If any means of authority makes a decision without consulting the people it affects 
mods are members too. 
Correct, but the moderators do not accurately represent the views of all LiveWire members, which is who major decisions (like this one) will effect. 
lol let's have a vote. anything less than 87,000 members agreeing with it and it's not a good policy. 
If you knew anything about science or research, you'd know that for a sample to be representative of its population, it must be selected randomly and the sample size must be at least the square root of the population. So, for this particular issue, Population = 172913 total members (and that is exaggerated because at least half of those members are no longer active and therefore wouldn't be affected by the new rules) Therefore, sample size = √172913 ≈ 416 members Of course, I don't expect such a rigorous consultation process. I'm just pointing out how much of an exaggeration 87, 000 is. I don't even want a vote, because that would produce quantitative data, which wouldn't be helpful in telling moderators/admins why members think the decision should/shouldn't be made, or how it could be improved. I just would have liked an opportunity for members to present their opinions and suggestions on the proposed decision.
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Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 9:47 pm on Aug. 23, 2008
Of course, I don't expect such a rigorous consultation process. I'm just pointing out how much of an exaggeration 87, 000 is. I don't even want a vote, because that would produce quantitative data, which wouldn't be helpful in telling moderators/admins why members think the decision should/shouldn't be made, or how it could be improved. I just would have liked an opportunity for members to present their opinions and suggestions on the proposed decision. 
There were some topics discussing that subject when the 'three musketeers' decided to take matters into their own hands. This announcement is the result of that rebellion. I'm not even sure that a majority of the Mods agree with this result.
------- "God does not play dice" - Albert Einstein "God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking Pectus Pectoris Memor
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